I was looking at https://x.com/cartersteinhoff which is the X account of u/cartersteinhoff , and also looking at https://x.com/OKJosh56 and it made me realize an important thing.
We Intactivists are cowards.
This is the reason why I'd like to state it-
1) Comparison to the Cutters - These Mutilators of children roam freely in the world, document it in videos and post it in social media, they daily cut a lot of children and their foreskin's off and the most interesting fact? They feed themselves by working in this profession.
If someone did FGM and used that profession to fill his tummy on regular basis, it'll be outright evil.
But these mutilators, i.e. so called 'Doctors' and Mohels are bothered by none.
While us Intactivists on the other hand make posts like these - https://www.reddit.com/r/Intactivists/co..._win_laws/ .
There is no wrong reason to win by hearts, it's cool, and it reduces cutting in a similar way to UK, Aussie, NZ and Canada, and it can work on America too, but it's slow and takes a literal generational leap of 25-40 years for it to execute. BUTT
On the other hand, the religious people like Muslims and Jews are still defending this by stopping these laws from implementing, like Cologne ( Germany ) and Denmark, They have forgotten the fact that FGM is usually outsourced from legal countries, and even countries like Egypt has made it illegal.
Honest Take: Religious sentiment will be winning for like after 100-150 years I approximate, and yet some countries will choose it to be mandatory, similar to how some islamic countries have made laws that by the religion you were born, you have stay that way, And you can't convert ( Qatar for example ) , a similar will occur for cutting too.
2) FGM and Female Counterparts - Look at the 75-67% uncut world, if all of them were UNITED to stop this bullshit, it'd end in a single year or decade, but not even a single more than that. Because most intact countries don't know and dont care until they get to know Muslims and Jews.
On the other hand, intact women in America ( who are obviously intact ) speak up against this shit which is going on smwhere in Africa. Just like Carter told ' Spirit of a lion ' in one of his tweets.
The main thing is that only some rare people know it, and it especially falls under MRA ( Men's Rights Activitist ) and MRA already is just starting it's first few steps, stopping Circumcision by Intactivists and MRA in itself will take time.
Anti-FGM spread rapidly thru social media and feminism, many of these issues only Intact Global, Bloodstained Men only make videos, and organize protests, rest we Intactivists are largely just sitting at home, when 3000+ children are being mutilated in America alone and 1 is dying everyday around the world ( with death peaking during Tuli or other Circumcision seasons around the world )
Even Intactivists who are cut, who share their grief in r/CirumcisionGrief themselves have a lot of internal conflict, but they don't show this to the external world, the reality is that we should show this to the world and use this energy to protest rapidly.
3) Capitalism Uphill - One thing that can be said for FGM is that they had a less effect of Capitalism since Male Circumcision industry in USA and other speaking countries are/were huge ( 6 billion in US alone ).
Countering this is like countering an entire fully-flourished industry, where the canvas is the innocent children and art is the way of using Plastibell, Gomco and Mogen clamps for cutting, like we don't even fucking frown at this disgusting piece of shit. If you show any intact guy how Gomco works he'll feel uncomfortable and feel like vomiting.
Plus the pain, it's so freaking painful to use these methods that just makes you think ' Who made these devices ?, Devil himself ? '
4) Brainwashed Hysterics - The Health benefits were never in first place for the Circumcision, it was the fear of being bullying, standing out and feeling awkward, against religion etc. Everyone who advocates for MGM should at first go to a local clinic and see it being done on children for like 2-5 times. May his soul have mercy but how can a doctor live in that scream and pain of child for years. The walls are made sound-proof so that they don't know it's painful and stop doing it instead. Anyone who is Pro-circ after seeing this will become Anti-circ fs. And then some will still justify for some health Benefits.
Overall, I have to say, many of cut have felt deeply violated by this procedure, For preventing this, we do need violence, inorder to pass laws that stop MGM in atleast the societies where MGM is less than 5% ( Cologne and Denmark historically ). Those who cut religiously should outsource it in these societies instead.
The main reason why USA still allows this BS is because of parental proxy consent, since Circumcision has those so called ' health benefits ' , it's not classified as cosmetic surgery , hence parents are allowed to do it, but this should be stopped.
This is my idea regarding how to counter this issue -
1) Copy paste one single piece of texts everywhere, - Online group of people will make a text for debunking the benefits, showing the complications, deaths and the brutal side, how it harms child's Autonomy and etc.
2) Use derogatory terms to those who support it ( because they use one at you tbh also) - Remember they call intact as Mr. Dih Cheese, call them Dry Dih, call them modified Dih, artificial Dih. Once again, not to those who grief over it, (they deserve love and respect) , but to those who say ' Glad I'm circumcised ' , bully them, harass them, show them that this will be the consequence of cutting your children, use violence at its peak, because it's obvious, and this should be a nationwide thing.
3) Join Protests rapidly - Intact America/Global and Bloodstained Men should show millions of protestors, not some, every Intactivist living in America should join them rapidly. ( And donate if they feel like it )
4) Ask people and bring them to these subreddits - many cut men have grief of losing, when they see other with intact penises, they do feel jealous, Unite the scattered people of the world into r/Intactivists and circumcised.com , they will fuel this movement rapidly.
5) ' Foreskin Man ' - Foreskin Man ( Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreskin_Man ) is a comic about some superhero who fought against the mutilators, you have to start picking up weapons ( not guns necessarily ), intrude to hospitals and stop this bs asap. This is a violent approach, but it's a pretty straightforward approach, because if they face the absolute harm for cutting, they would rather not cut and hospital wouldn't barely dare to hire another one, if perpetuated correctly, it can turn up to be very successful in long run. Once again, not a first choice, but definitely an amazing choice.
6) File Lawsuits Against people - Your parents, the mutilators and the government all were responsible in harm to your bodily autonomy. The only way you can show this world that they did this wrong, is Lawsuits, Even if you are religiously circumcised, the individual should have the right to practice the religion in the way he wants, not the way his parents or society wants, and hence circumcising was a wrong thing and needs a lawsuit, A lawsuit is the only solution to problems of religious Circumcision, only the victims will show that 'yes, it was wrong and you have to pay for it'.
7) Demand the real equality - when female counterparts get Anti-FGM laws, why can't males, are male citizens some lower class ? One of the things that Carter glorified is that Men get mutilated and yet they get to called 'priviledged' white men have turned weak, they no longer want to fight, some have unjoined the movement and accepted the fate, but remember,
The Jews, Muslims, and the so called ' Experts ' will find out another dumb reason to cut and will again try to influence the majority the way they did in 1900s. We have to stop this practice ASAP before another bs guy comes up and say ' Glad, I'm circumcised '.
Conclusion: We need violence inorder for anti-MGM laws to pull out immediately. There are many babies who will experience real pleasure from not being cut in the future if we raise our voices today. What inflicts on babies tomorrow is a moral duty of us today. Circumcision is worse than Rape, Battery, Sexual Assault , Sexual Harassment and inappropriate touching. And all these are inflicted on children. 3000+ of them in the US today, millions of them currently in the world. And Billions of them affected, many of them bottling up, lying or grieving. 1 is dying everyday in the world.
The Question still remains - Is Circumcision this much important to y'all ( anti-intactivists ) that it's okay to let children bleed and die? Are you all against humans and human rights ? Do you have some demonic spirit inside you that lets you have an opinion over your child's body without any justified explanation?
Thank you for reading this far, Hope the message has reached to all fellow Intactivists out there, please Pardon me if my English was not very good. Hope we look forward to making earth a better place.
P.S. - BTW, forgot to mention one small point, You will be labelled Anti-Semitic, Islamophobic or whatever these pro-circs will throw at you, remember, your battle is not against these Muslims and Jews, your battle is against the people who violate human rights in the name of ' Health ' while hiding their PDF filic desires. Muslims practiced FGM until there was a ban, if someone called it Islamophobic, he would be shot down like hell. All Jews , Muslims and cut people are our brothers ( and sisters too ).
P.P.S - I also like the comparison of https://www.reddit.com/r/Intactivists/co...cumcision/ where doctors recommended cigars, how strikingly similar it is.
We Intactivists are cowards.
This is the reason why I'd like to state it-
1) Comparison to the Cutters - These Mutilators of children roam freely in the world, document it in videos and post it in social media, they daily cut a lot of children and their foreskin's off and the most interesting fact? They feed themselves by working in this profession.
If someone did FGM and used that profession to fill his tummy on regular basis, it'll be outright evil.
But these mutilators, i.e. so called 'Doctors' and Mohels are bothered by none.
While us Intactivists on the other hand make posts like these - https://www.reddit.com/r/Intactivists/co..._win_laws/ .
There is no wrong reason to win by hearts, it's cool, and it reduces cutting in a similar way to UK, Aussie, NZ and Canada, and it can work on America too, but it's slow and takes a literal generational leap of 25-40 years for it to execute. BUTT
On the other hand, the religious people like Muslims and Jews are still defending this by stopping these laws from implementing, like Cologne ( Germany ) and Denmark, They have forgotten the fact that FGM is usually outsourced from legal countries, and even countries like Egypt has made it illegal.
Honest Take: Religious sentiment will be winning for like after 100-150 years I approximate, and yet some countries will choose it to be mandatory, similar to how some islamic countries have made laws that by the religion you were born, you have stay that way, And you can't convert ( Qatar for example ) , a similar will occur for cutting too.
2) FGM and Female Counterparts - Look at the 75-67% uncut world, if all of them were UNITED to stop this bullshit, it'd end in a single year or decade, but not even a single more than that. Because most intact countries don't know and dont care until they get to know Muslims and Jews.
On the other hand, intact women in America ( who are obviously intact ) speak up against this shit which is going on smwhere in Africa. Just like Carter told ' Spirit of a lion ' in one of his tweets.
The main thing is that only some rare people know it, and it especially falls under MRA ( Men's Rights Activitist ) and MRA already is just starting it's first few steps, stopping Circumcision by Intactivists and MRA in itself will take time.
Anti-FGM spread rapidly thru social media and feminism, many of these issues only Intact Global, Bloodstained Men only make videos, and organize protests, rest we Intactivists are largely just sitting at home, when 3000+ children are being mutilated in America alone and 1 is dying everyday around the world ( with death peaking during Tuli or other Circumcision seasons around the world )
Even Intactivists who are cut, who share their grief in r/CirumcisionGrief themselves have a lot of internal conflict, but they don't show this to the external world, the reality is that we should show this to the world and use this energy to protest rapidly.
3) Capitalism Uphill - One thing that can be said for FGM is that they had a less effect of Capitalism since Male Circumcision industry in USA and other speaking countries are/were huge ( 6 billion in US alone ).
Countering this is like countering an entire fully-flourished industry, where the canvas is the innocent children and art is the way of using Plastibell, Gomco and Mogen clamps for cutting, like we don't even fucking frown at this disgusting piece of shit. If you show any intact guy how Gomco works he'll feel uncomfortable and feel like vomiting.
Plus the pain, it's so freaking painful to use these methods that just makes you think ' Who made these devices ?, Devil himself ? '
4) Brainwashed Hysterics - The Health benefits were never in first place for the Circumcision, it was the fear of being bullying, standing out and feeling awkward, against religion etc. Everyone who advocates for MGM should at first go to a local clinic and see it being done on children for like 2-5 times. May his soul have mercy but how can a doctor live in that scream and pain of child for years. The walls are made sound-proof so that they don't know it's painful and stop doing it instead. Anyone who is Pro-circ after seeing this will become Anti-circ fs. And then some will still justify for some health Benefits.
Overall, I have to say, many of cut have felt deeply violated by this procedure, For preventing this, we do need violence, inorder to pass laws that stop MGM in atleast the societies where MGM is less than 5% ( Cologne and Denmark historically ). Those who cut religiously should outsource it in these societies instead.
The main reason why USA still allows this BS is because of parental proxy consent, since Circumcision has those so called ' health benefits ' , it's not classified as cosmetic surgery , hence parents are allowed to do it, but this should be stopped.
This is my idea regarding how to counter this issue -
1) Copy paste one single piece of texts everywhere, - Online group of people will make a text for debunking the benefits, showing the complications, deaths and the brutal side, how it harms child's Autonomy and etc.
2) Use derogatory terms to those who support it ( because they use one at you tbh also) - Remember they call intact as Mr. Dih Cheese, call them Dry Dih, call them modified Dih, artificial Dih. Once again, not to those who grief over it, (they deserve love and respect) , but to those who say ' Glad I'm circumcised ' , bully them, harass them, show them that this will be the consequence of cutting your children, use violence at its peak, because it's obvious, and this should be a nationwide thing.
3) Join Protests rapidly - Intact America/Global and Bloodstained Men should show millions of protestors, not some, every Intactivist living in America should join them rapidly. ( And donate if they feel like it )
4) Ask people and bring them to these subreddits - many cut men have grief of losing, when they see other with intact penises, they do feel jealous, Unite the scattered people of the world into r/Intactivists and circumcised.com , they will fuel this movement rapidly.
5) ' Foreskin Man ' - Foreskin Man ( Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreskin_Man ) is a comic about some superhero who fought against the mutilators, you have to start picking up weapons ( not guns necessarily ), intrude to hospitals and stop this bs asap. This is a violent approach, but it's a pretty straightforward approach, because if they face the absolute harm for cutting, they would rather not cut and hospital wouldn't barely dare to hire another one, if perpetuated correctly, it can turn up to be very successful in long run. Once again, not a first choice, but definitely an amazing choice.
6) File Lawsuits Against people - Your parents, the mutilators and the government all were responsible in harm to your bodily autonomy. The only way you can show this world that they did this wrong, is Lawsuits, Even if you are religiously circumcised, the individual should have the right to practice the religion in the way he wants, not the way his parents or society wants, and hence circumcising was a wrong thing and needs a lawsuit, A lawsuit is the only solution to problems of religious Circumcision, only the victims will show that 'yes, it was wrong and you have to pay for it'.
7) Demand the real equality - when female counterparts get Anti-FGM laws, why can't males, are male citizens some lower class ? One of the things that Carter glorified is that Men get mutilated and yet they get to called 'priviledged' white men have turned weak, they no longer want to fight, some have unjoined the movement and accepted the fate, but remember,
The Jews, Muslims, and the so called ' Experts ' will find out another dumb reason to cut and will again try to influence the majority the way they did in 1900s. We have to stop this practice ASAP before another bs guy comes up and say ' Glad, I'm circumcised '.
Conclusion: We need violence inorder for anti-MGM laws to pull out immediately. There are many babies who will experience real pleasure from not being cut in the future if we raise our voices today. What inflicts on babies tomorrow is a moral duty of us today. Circumcision is worse than Rape, Battery, Sexual Assault , Sexual Harassment and inappropriate touching. And all these are inflicted on children. 3000+ of them in the US today, millions of them currently in the world. And Billions of them affected, many of them bottling up, lying or grieving. 1 is dying everyday in the world.
The Question still remains - Is Circumcision this much important to y'all ( anti-intactivists ) that it's okay to let children bleed and die? Are you all against humans and human rights ? Do you have some demonic spirit inside you that lets you have an opinion over your child's body without any justified explanation?
Thank you for reading this far, Hope the message has reached to all fellow Intactivists out there, please Pardon me if my English was not very good. Hope we look forward to making earth a better place.
P.S. - BTW, forgot to mention one small point, You will be labelled Anti-Semitic, Islamophobic or whatever these pro-circs will throw at you, remember, your battle is not against these Muslims and Jews, your battle is against the people who violate human rights in the name of ' Health ' while hiding their PDF filic desires. Muslims practiced FGM until there was a ban, if someone called it Islamophobic, he would be shot down like hell. All Jews , Muslims and cut people are our brothers ( and sisters too ).
P.P.S - I also like the comparison of https://www.reddit.com/r/Intactivists/co...cumcision/ where doctors recommended cigars, how strikingly similar it is.
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I wish there was a "thanks" or upvote function on this forum. Many people reading this will agree but you get no feedback on your posts. Carter is one of the few intactivists that does not excuse the parents from signing the consent forms. He also is very aware of the particular demographics most complacent with RIC
I have posted this on Reddit too, you may check it out if you want, you can upvote it there, link : https://www.reddit.com/r/Intactivists/co..._its_true/
(07-16-2026, 12:49 PM)magnole Wrote: been following carter for years and honestly he is really onto something here when he says a lot of intactivists are cowards its like a sad reality because i have noticed so much passivity and tone policing amongst us as he describes
Me too, and I also see where he's coming from
(07-16-2026, 12:49 PM)magnole Wrote: been following carter for years and honestly he is really onto something here when he says a lot of intactivists are cowards its like a sad reality because i have noticed so much passivity and tone policing amongst us as he describes
I mean Carter isn't wrong, but the approach doesn't suit all of us tbh, he is like, maybe suffering from this issue, tbh, whatever the Intactivists themselves feel like approaching, they should take that approach.
Tbh, i think, Intactivists are lucky + brave, the Pro-circs are openly cowards ngl, and, maybe Carter is wrong, but what can we do now....
This post was last modified: 07-25-2026, 12:46 PM by FishyFirefly.
(07-25-2026, 11:21 PM)Old-guy Wrote: It would help to adjust our language. Instead of just writing "circumcision", one could substitute "harmful circumcision" or "injurious circumcision" or "amputation".
We already Use Mutilation or MGM, not just like, Circumcision, or RIC, Routine Infact Circumcision, we intactivists are already using harmful terms to circumcision